Chat Transcript 09/21/2011 12:00: Zoraini Wati Abas #change11

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Chat Transcript 09/21/2011 12:00: Zoraini Wati Abas #change11

Jaaosoft:

you need Fuze_Meeting.dmg plugin from fuzemeeting.com

prova:

very good for accessibility to HOH people

gsiemens:

@barry - do you have options to mute pings and dings when you set up a room?

Barry Dahl:

don't think so, but I'll check it out (beeps)

Terri Ann Guingab:

Audio broke up - was that 1.5 cents US per SMS?

Barry Dahl:

yes, I heard 1.5 cents US/Canadian

siavogel:

was out and in again, still no sound.

Cris2B:

You used Twitter to archive SMSes. Is Twitter not a good option for communicating with a class? I guess SMS is more pull?

kwillbanks:

Yes, this solves audio problems: EdTech Talk for simulcast. http://www.livestream.com/ett

Brett Fyfield:

push obviously relates to in your pocket.

gsiemens:

@Cris - still like email...I guess

Patricia Bassani:

I can't access by skype

Barry Dahl:

audio probs? Try going to EdTech Talk for simulcast. http://www.livestream.com/ett

jim:

@Cris2B I think SMS is available with ubuquitous basic cell service, whereas twitter requires smart phone or computer

Terri Ann Guingab:

@jim true, but twitter doesn't involve a cost per message. :)

Cris2B:

@Jim -- ah that's it. Wonder ratio of smart phones?

siavogel:

ik weet het niet meer hoor.

siavogel:

Help....

Brett Fyfield:

Although if you opt in, you can get SMS from specific users with Twitter.. It's just an extra hurdle for students, that you may not wish them to jum

Vance:

I can't hoor either

Kelly Edmonds:

Can't hear will wait for recording

siavogel:

Mic is blue, mute is not on what now

Roland:

use the simulcast if you have audio issues

Roland:

livestream.com/ett

siavogel:

what's the simulcast?

brainysmurf:

this fits well with jane bozarth's work on SoMe for trainers - using questions of the day or simillar to prompt thinking

Roland:

http://www.livestream.com/ett

Barry Dahl:

EdTechTalk is simulcast

Barry Dahl:

http://www.livestream.com/ett

Leone:

@Roland thanks this works

Roland:

:)

JL:

Audio only stream also available at http://edtechtalk.com/live

Cris2B:

Any comparison with grades? Just wondering. . .

siavogel:

Thnks..., many many thanks, not perfect but... sound hurray

prova:

what is SD ?

Tobias:

Thanx a lot, that helped

Stephen Downes:

SD = standard deviation

Cris2B:

@siavogel -- Congratulations! You should win the prize for most determination.

prova:

TY

Kate Robbins:

Interesting

Barry Dahl:

We don't need no stinkin' prizes!

siavogel:

Yeah,,,

Jaaosoft:

SD standard deviation

Barry Dahl:

But I'd love to earn a badge for this

Cris2B:

Okay. Badges to Barry and sivogel ;-)

Stephen Downes:

I should get a badge for writing the complete perl-BBB api in two days to get ready for the conference, only to have BBB crash on us :(

Manish:

Badges?

prova:

please keep focused

gsiemens:

I'll award you a badge

Cris2B:

@Stephen - at least a badge and a medal

siavogel:

I hope to find a solution for next session bu for now I am glad to hear the voice of the teacher...

gsiemens:

Stephen, you choose what you want it to say :)

Barry Dahl:

Best thing about SMS? They actually receive the message,

Roland:

ah! the voice of the teacher! we still do need that!

Cris2B:

Did they think the teacher or tutor or adm sent SMSes? Does it matter?

siavogel:

Yes @roland, it makes the session more live...

vhaustudent:

If you have to keep sending SMS reminders of exams, assignment due dates, etc, are you not creating an atmosphere of learned helplessness?

Brett Fyfield:

Aren't you afraid of spoonfeeding students? Shouldn't we be encouraging more autonomy?

Jaaosoft:

I wonder what do these students learn?

Barry Dahl:

Too much hand holding? - when you let go of their hand they drop out. Just sayin'

Cris2B:

Hand holding is AOK sometimes

Roland:

especially in distance learning, I think it's a good way to keep people motivated.

Jaaosoft:

like to hold your hands

mariana_affronti:

here i all rght, thanks

Cris2B:

I liked the quote that the "SMS remind them they are in school."

jim:

I would sometimes appreciate hand-holding

jim:

especially when I forgot a live meeting

Lars:

I don't think the motivation you get out of this project is immense! Getting students to work harder, more, etc. is great!

brainysmurf:

my partner used twitter to update parents as well as students about assignments - no excuses for not doing homework now!

Brett Fyfield:

@Cris2B I likd that quote too, I think they sometimes need a reminder.

Cris2B:

@Brett -- right because I remember reading that over 95% work and attend school

Stephen Downes:

I don't think so

Brett Fyfield:

@Lars, I think you're right, the motivation.

Patricia Bassani:

Finally the audio!!!! In the end...:-(

Brett Fyfield:

The other question asked on the discussion page was about the connection with learning versus pastoral care + reminders.

Brett Fyfield:

Where was the connection to Learning Outcomes?

siavogel:

@patricia Via edchat or directly on fuze?

Patricia Bassani:

@siavogel On fuze.

Jaaosoft:

what do students learn in these courses?

ljp:

No audio - speaker not detected -- had to shut down firewall

siavogel:

@patricia How did you manage :-). Good!!!

vhaustudent:

Where I am there has been much talk about teachers refraining from having "external" contact with their students (esp. primary and secondary grades). Would sending SMS reminders of assignments and exams also be banned? Where do you draw the line?

Lars:

Thanks Zoraini!

Patricia Bassani:

I don't know very well ;-)

Kate Robbins:

Some US public school systems are using SMS to send announcements to students.

Roland:

applause!

gsiemens:

Go Stephen

Patricia Bassani:

I pressed in an icon and install something

Brett Fyfield:

clapping!

jim:

Applause

gsiemens:

I hear you

Cris2B:

Question: So it's not teachers sending out SMSes but adm, right?

Barry Dahl:

Nicely done Zoraini

Kate Robbins:

Thank you.

RoseQ:

you can also try the audio only stream at http://edtechtalk.com/live got access to sound here at last:)

gsiemens:

Zoraini is 1 am

gsiemens:

however

Lars:

I said it allready, but the student motivation is key for me! Great work!

Cris2B:

You're a trooper, Zoriani!

Brett Fyfield:

good job, and thanks to the facilitators for getting this alternative solution up, thanks Barry!

prova:

Thanks Zoraini, nice job

Patricia Bassani:

@siavog In call attendess - above there is an icon (I don't the name in english ...in portuguese is microfone)

Jenny Mackness:

Has there been any negative feedback from students and if so what?

Brett Fyfield:

The link to learning outcomes

siavogel:

And now... a glass of red wine, I deserved.. Thanks Zoraine I did not hear much but read your pieces...

suehellman:

Is there a way to make this chat box bigger?

avaarndt:

Thanks Zoraini!! Great project.

Jenny Mackness:

lost sound

Christy Tucker:

@suehellman, collapse the attendees lists

mariana_affronti:

i listen perfect from http://edtechtalk.com/livestream

jim:

@suehellman collapse "Web Attendees" window

suehellman:

@jim -- don't see how to do that

Patricia Bassani:

I can hear.

gsiemens:

@Zoraini? u there?

Brett Fyfield:

Zoraini, I'm in Brisbane so a couple of hours ahead of you.

Christy Tucker:

@suehellman, click the triangle to the right of web attendees

siavogel:

I here both again...

jim:

@suehellman little triangel or arrow at left of window header

suehellman:

@jim -- ok I got it thanks

jim:

- oops triangle

Jenny Mackness:

Thank you

jim:

no three angels there

Cris2B:

Are teachers or tutors allowed to SMS individual students or would they use other communication?

Brett Fyfield:

Learning Skills module, ICT tech, digital literacies etc...

Brett Fyfield:

First semester subject?

siavogel:

No, did not, listen to edchat lifestream now.

siavogel:

Was meant for @patricia

Brett Fyfield:

Understand learning styles,

Brett Fyfield:

Thank you very much Zoraini!

Brett Fyfield:

that was great.

Volkmar Langer:

The sms communication, was it bidirectional?

Jaaosoft:

typical USA question? why should teacher not talk to student?

Cris2B:

thanks

Brett Fyfield:

afraid of getting sued?

siavogel:

@I will ask my Dutch feiend @jaapsoft after this session :-).

Cris2B:

Well, if you're in Missouri -- arrested

Volkmar Langer:

thanks!

Daniel Spielmann:

Is this project still going on or is it over?

Dalize:

Do you use your LMS to send/receive sms's?

Kate Robbins:

Thank you - slow start but nice session:)

vhaustudent:

@Jaaosoft: actually it's something that is being pushed in Ontario (Canada).

Brett Fyfield:

Thanks Stephen!

mariana_affronti:

clap, clap, clap, thanks from Argentina

Cris2B:

It was an appropriate start and challenge for Change11

RoseQ:

were there any cases where students could initiate there own questions (not just respond)

Leone:

thanks & greeting to all from Ireland

siavogel:

Thanks... Next time hope it will go wright.

siavogel:

Right of course...

brainysmurf:

thanks to all - nice recovery from unexpected hiccups

siavogel:

@stephen, when is next session?

vhaustudent:

@Brett: misconstrue teacher-student relationships…. big problems!

Louise:

will you look into other more objective measures: dropout rates and etc

Cris2B:

Best of luck with future bigger things!

Daniel Spielmann:

Thanks.

Cris2B:

Thank you! Get some rest.

gsiemens:

Thanks Zoraini!!!

Roland:

thanks a lot!

Terri Ann Guingab:

/Applause! Very informative session

Lars:

thanks, great work!

gsiemens:

great slides!!

gsiemens:

great talk

Brett Fyfield:

Anyone from Oz?

Cris2B:

and you get to work out the bugs or BBB

Jenny Mackness:

Thank you Zoraini

Louise:

thanks :)

ajomonzo:

thanks very interesting

Volkmar Langer:

Thanks to all - greetings from Hamelin (pied piper twon - lower saxony - germany) :-))

siavogel:

Thanks again, will have some food now... See you all.

Brett Fyfield:

ha

Dalize:

Got things working after we left BBB, greetings from SA!

mariana_affronti:

thanks, if you aupload this meeting, perhaps we can tranlate to spanish!!

RoseQ:

will we be able to use edtechtalk stream too- only way I could get audio??

suehellman:

thanks

Daniel Spielmann:

Please post this world time-link in the daily newsletter for the next sessions - it's extremly helpful.

siavogel:

Friday eastern 12..

Patricia Bassani:

Thanks! Greetings from Rio Grande do Sul/Brazil!

Lars:

long live the Daily!

mariana_affronti:

ok we ae witin this post , thanks

Cris2B:

so how many actually made it in? can't see #

Roland:

long live the Daily!

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Chat Transcript 09/21/2011 12:00: Zoraini Wati Abas #change11